Why do I need to delete conversation IF I EVEN INFORMED YOU that I will file a scam report. I informed you even in advance and made a full conversation photo (sent to both mods). Especially that last messages from my side about the room type which was unavailable you were just ignoring.
You can clearly see it was just a normal photo of the email that hotel printed for me, I was writing you and keeping you informed every minute, about what manager is saying.
You are making strange bookings on dirty accounts which getting chargebacked later, hotel receiving notification about this from booking.com and hotel asking me to pay during the checkin process.
About "officially cancelled" I asked you (check our conversation photos) is it possible for YOU PERSONALLY to check the status of the booking - you said NO (means you dont have access to an account you used to make a booking = really legit method)
So how else can I let you know that the hotel is cancelled IF YOU (check our conversation again) said to me that the best way is a direct call to the hotel. Service wasnt delivered as my stay was planned 5-7 Aug and 2-9 Aug. I will say once again call the hotel by yourself and ask them if they have me there now
Before anything, you NEVER CALLED THE HOTEL, or at least you didn't wanted to share you called to not confirm to me it was booked.
And why would I check the booking status if I already did it right after purchasing the booking? After being charged and confirmed it's up to you get the phone and check. I have no reasons to do it for you, since I already know how it went.
Where's the "clearly" part of the paper was printed by the hotel? Cuz all I see if an email template, that could easily be cloned from previous booking you did and simply modified. The fact that NOTHING IS CORRECT, just the Hotel name and your own name which obviously you already knew. All the info you didn't had such as the email, time purchased, etc NEVER APPEARED.
And for the last, WHY WOULD I DELETE THE CHAT? The only person without the chat screenshots is me, all proofs provided are from my gallery such as the fake hotel email you did and the booking confirmations that I sent to you. The fact you said that was going to open an scam report has literally no relation with the fact you deleted the entire chat before opening the scam report. This literally makes no sense.
We are not talking about a simple $100 report here, It's almost $2.000. I have proofs on my side while you have nothing but your word.
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First of all, I informed you that I called the hotel (@Liars and @Darkness can check it, I sent the full conversation).
You have a reason now to call the hotel and double check - you are saying that I am trying to scam you and use the hotel for free. BRO THIS IS THE REASON WHY I OPENED A SCAM REPORT. You have a 100000% reason to call the hotel. Once again hotel booked 2-9 Aug you still have time to check if I am there and if I am using your service for free.
What should be correct on that email? What hotel printed for me - I sent to you, I am not working at the hotel so I am not making these emails. Show on which email was the booking made, billing address and phone number - it will be the same like on that email because this is the information that the hotel got from booking.com
We both know that you deleted the chat, we know it. Thats why I made all screenshots straightaway as I knew it will happen. You deleted the chat, deleted me from contacts, and deleted me from the group
The real problem here is that you found some booking.com accounts, made bookings on them but they all got chargebacked. You thought you gonna be the best hotel vendor but made many failed bookings and closed the service. (Once again in the full conversation that both mods have) I asked you "can you see if my booking is still active?" You said that you dont have an access to an account anymore. Really nice legal service :)
(05 August, 2023 - 01:26 PM)maksonis Wrote: Show More
First of all, I informed you that I called the hotel (@Liars and @Darkness can check it, I sent the full conversation).
You have a reason now to call the hotel and double check - you are saying that I am trying to scam you and use the hotel for free. BRO THIS IS THE REASON WHY I OPENED A SCAM REPORT. You have a 100000% reason to call the hotel. Once again hotel booked 2-9 Aug you still have time to check if I am there and if I am using your service for free.
What should be correct on that email? What hotel printed for me - I sent to you, I am not working at the hotel so I am not making these emails. Show on which email was the booking made, billing address and phone number - it will be the same like on that email because this is the information that the hotel got from booking.com
We both know that you deleted the chat, we know it. Thats why I made all screenshots straightaway as I knew it will happen. You deleted the chat, deleted me from contacts, and deleted me from the group
The real problem here is that you found some booking.com accounts, made bookings on them but they all got chargebacked. You thought you gonna be the best hotel vendor but made many failed bookings and closed the service. (Once again in the full conversation that both mods have) I asked you "can you see if my booking is still active?" You said that you dont have an access to an account anymore. Really nice legal service :)
You're just repeating the same words. Making it multiple times doesn't make your story more believable.
I really idk what's your play here or what the hell is happening on your end, but the booking was confirmed and charged on my side. I don't care if you tried to resell my service and got problems with your client or whatever, it's not my fault, my part of the job was done.
We all know you deleted that chat, I couldn't grab screenshots of all the bullshit you said and how clearly you're trying to rip off.
Liars already talked to me via Telegram DMs, he got the screenshots and we noticed there's different names on booking. Idk if you tried to resell my service and got problems but there's NO WAY I'm going to refund if my service was delivered.
It's the same as paying someone to refund your order on amazon and once the refund is confirmed I simply ask to cancel everything and fuck the refunder which lost money on ftid, insider, etc. Not how services like that works.
Today is the date where there last booking gets canceled in case no one appeared on check in, if this happened it's because you simply decide to not go in.
I got all the names used on bookings and after seeing your courage to try to scam me just makes it clear it's not your name being used on bookings. Probably the poor people you tried to resell.
No one would have the balls to play with someone that could easily dox you.
@Liars @Darkness please reply asap, the annoying DWC warning is already affecting my other sales threads. I already provided all proofs on my side, OP had more than enough to try to prove his claim.
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OP05 August, 2023 - 04:42 PM(This post was last modified: 05 August, 2023 - 05:30 PM by maksonis. Edited 3 times in total.)
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So after calling all 3 hotels again today. First of all the hotel which was planned 5-7 Aug was cancelled long time ago (30th July) and I informed you about that.
About different names, there are 2 names (my own and my friend's, only 2 names and I told you which booking will be made for me and which one for my friend). No difference here as I paid for him, so I am also making a scam report.
Look, I called all 3 hotels again today to ask how was this possible that the booking was confirmed but I was asked to pay on arrival. They explained to me, Booking.com gets the payment info from you and sending it to a hotel. The hotel itself putting these payment details (date, card/name, cvv) into a small POS machine and processing a payment. Thats how it works in most hotels in Greece, they get the money directly from the person and not from the booking.com.
The first hotel was cancelled on July 30 already, other 2 were confirmed but when the hotel tried to process the payment, either cards had no money either they couldnt authorise the payment as you use stolen accounts but they just couldnt take the payment so they asked me to pay.
Now its really easy to check everything, if you can provide a payment confirmation (not booking one but payment, where, when and how money left the bank account) then its clearly a hotel's fault and I will contact the hotel telling them that they tried to make me pay twice and that they took the money from me but didnt let me to stay.
But the main idea is that money NEVER left the card you were trying to use for a booking. As booking.com just collects the payment details but the hotel is processing the payment during an arrival.
I want to say that its not your fault, as I see it all depends on a hotel and on a country. In Spain for example booking.com is taking the payment during the confirmation process, so if card is not good you will know about this already.
This time 2 hotels were in Greece and all 2 not good as the card either was empty either was wrong.
My method doesn't include access to bank accounts, It's not possible to provide this type of confirmation, just like any other card related product here on cracked. The booking confirmation is more than enough to confirm the booking was made and confirmed. You can't have this message without being charged. You're the one that needs to show real and consistent proofs, not me. I'm still waiting something confirming the hotel was canceled by my fault but not your words or some printed paper with wrong details about the booking.
And once again, I have proofs the booking was made and confirmed. I had many expenses booking all hotels and I'm not refunding for something that didn't happened.
Your request makes no sense and without real proofs nothing can be made. I don't care if your clients didn't paid you or whatever happened, it's not my fault, the service was delivered.
The paper you sent me is clearly fake and you can't reverse that, you lost your scam chance when that image was sent. By providing such document and opening an scam report you're already breaking the forum rules.
OP05 August, 2023 - 05:31 PM(This post was last modified: 05 August, 2023 - 08:50 PM by maksonis.)
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Paper is just a paper. Its not showing anything scam or fake there. Just showing all the info that hotel had about my booking, I used it show you that I paid for ALL IN but they had me as BB.
I am trying to explain you that booking confirmation and actual payment process is a different thing in Greece. I am telling you to call the hotel and ask them directly about this case, dont be scared man, call the hotel. Both hotel will tell you that payment wasnt processed.
You cant show me any proofs, asking you to show payment confirmation - you cant, asking to call the hotel - you cant, asking to show the full booking info - you cant.
How can I proof that the hotel was cancelled if even you dont have an access to an account from which the booking was made. I am telling you, I called the hotel it was cancelled. If you are scared to call, write them an email
@Liars and @Darkness just received a really solid proof from me. I showed that its possible to make a booking and get a booking confirmation having just 0.94€ on a card.
Card was just verified but not charged, they will charge it on arrival and then tell the person to pay. Really waiting for your response guys!
05 August, 2023 - 09:04 PM(This post was last modified: 05 August, 2023 - 09:10 PM by Akira. Edited 1 time in total.)
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The paper has wrong infos regarding the booking, literally falls as fake document. Using a fake document in an scam report is against the rules. You're forging proofs you got scammed.
You're already a banned user here.
I already showed proofs about the payment, you just ignoring it. No one providing cards related services here will have access to banks, that's not how the game works. If I had access to banks I would just cashout instead of sell booking for a poor Turkish.
I'm still waiting for proofs about what you're accusing me. Once again, your words aren't proof.
Deleting chats and forging proofs is what SCAMMERS do.
You never called the hotel asking about the status, because you obviously didn't wanted to forge proofs to your future report. Always saying "tomorrow gonna call", "later I'm calling" and it never happened. I wonder why, huh.
Why did you deleted the chat?
Why did you forged proofs?
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OP DELETED THE IMGUR HE INCLUDED THE CHAT PROOFS. THERE'S NO IMAGES ATTACHED ANYMORE!! What you trying to hide now? Noticed some breach?
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